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We are happy that it got a lot of people thinking and talking about this awesome game. However, there is one thing you want to do before heading there, as there’s a secret quest that can be started in Lestallum. And its main color is blue…Odin’s color. On my 2nd play through I came back knowing the reward is crap but just wanted to go through it again I'm working on the Pitioss Ruins dungeon, but I'd rather not do it all in one day. However the simpler explanation here is more likely the correct one. Many fans believe that this was a dream in the same way that the Platinum Demo was, as Noctis can only see and communicate with Carbuncle in this dream-like state. Thankfully that never materialized, and whether or not that led to Square-Enix handing the directing duties to Hajime Tabata we'll never know, but many fans were grateful that he managed to create a very a good Final Fantasy game despite all the obstacles that were in his way. The Genji equipment being in Pitioss, and the above artwork definitely suggests that Gilgamesh played a huge part in the story. Regalia Type-F Pitioss Ruins (2) Remove this ad - Subscribe to Premium. It’s been in front of our eyes this whole time… in Pitioss Ruins. Ifrit is caged. “But Gilgamesh isn’t a Necromancer or a Lich, Perona77!” Hmm... let’s look at the mural from a slightly different perspective. A popular theory is that King Regis was shown the fate of his son Noctis through the power of the crystal. It would make sense that Niflheim, the country trying to emulate Solheim, would build their capitol over the ruins of Solheim’s capitol. Pitioss Ruins Bosses. The theory suggests that Eos isn’t just the name of the world but a goddess who was another Astral. Or even go as far as preventing the world from going dark. This means Pryna, as a Messenger, is free to serve whom she wishes, which in the future turns out to be Luna. No surprise there. If, like me, your favorite part of Final Fantasy XV was the mind-boggling Pitioss Ruins, here is a fun fact: It was designed by one person, according to director Hajime Tabata. Perhaps Solheim was experimenting on Doomtrain, as well. In Zegnautus the only way forward for the Bros is when Prompto admits he is partially Magitech made and uses a chip within his hand to open the door. Plus I'm getting paranoid that my PS4 will mysteriously shut off or something and I'll have to start over! That's a hint that his arm is required to open the door. Follow the trail of souls…they lead to the Crystal, the Heart of Eos. There are currently no other hints or indications of any other person this could logically be, besides Gilgamesh. But it is also symbolically Gilgamesh, the foundation of Solheim, inventor of Solheim’s machinations, & the demi-god son of Eos. An argument that effectively amounts to "Satan is actually the good guy" requires a bit more evidence than some meaningful item placement and architecture. Of course, it could just be a strange rock formation or perhaps it’s the remnants of the sword that Bahamut used to kill him in their final battle. And it’s a white switch that throws the first Meteor in front of Ifrit, literally right behind the treasure chest in front of Ifrit. After a few millennia of reflection on his past actions Gilgamesh could now see the consequences of the evils he had brought into the world and his trials and “gifts” are his way of atoning for his sins. http://imgur.com/L9i6Ohf Do you see the Necromancer/Lich-looking character with a red cap & souls going into him? The theory says that one of the twins would be Ardyn, and I think it pretty much makes sense, from the similarity of his hair with the hair of the sculpture, to the black wing garment he often wears, to the strange powers he had and doesn’t seem to have much to do with the Crystal (stopping time and changing his appearence at will come to my mind). Gilgamesh may very well have been an ancient Solheim King who helped build the machinations of the once great country. A little over a year since its original release, the Final Fantasy 15: Royal Edition has arrived to bring extra DLC to the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One. Pitioss Ruins is an enemy-free dungeon involving lots of intricate puzzle-solving as well as platforming. The dungeon's design is dominated by glowing orange spikes, numerous statues of unknown figures, and in its deepest chamber, a giant stone statue of a woman holding a sword over her head; the identities of the figures are unknown, but the giant statue of the woman appears to be the focal point of the ruins, being found in their deepest point before the player begins their return to the surface. TL; DR: Can you guess where Gilgamesh’s missing arm is? The very first room in Pitioss shows Ifrit stuck in a cage. It’s a great theory but it seems strange that they would confirm it was Ifrit body without mentioning the so-called wing of Eos. In typical Final Fantasy lore Genji Gloves are traditionally dropped by or stolen from none other than Gilgamesh. Oh, but we have seen this before! Ifrit was now able to use Meteor three times, and he used it to wreak his retribution upon Solheim. Finally, and perhaps the most telling, is that he never once focuses on Shiva or any of her copies as she surrounds him and casts Diamond Dust. Many fans enjoy the idea that there’s a possible connection between Final Fantasy VIII and Final Fantasy XV. He only uses Hellfire. We personally think that Pitioss Ruins was the developer’s way to sneak in the lore, the backstory, and the history of FFXV… just in case they never got the greenlight to continue on with developing FFXV. Final Fantasy fans have taken theory-crafting to a new level with Final Fantasy 15. Yet as the game’s history is told through many cosmology books found scattered all over the world of Eos it’s clear that they were capable of communicating on a human level, as their language is incomprehensible in their normal state. Bear in mind that Odin must have been killed at some point after the events of Ifrit’s betrayal, as he is nowhere to be seen in present day. It’s also believed that the placement of the Genji Gloves at the statue of Eos’ belly was symbolically stating that she had twins. Pitioss Ruins is a Dungeon in Final Fantasy XV. Even now, Gilgamesh is still tied to Solheim Ruins, deep underground, as seen in Episode Gladio. During Nyx Ulric’s battle with General Glauca, Nyx displayed a lot of the power that he gained temporarily from the Ring of Lucii. Keltainentoukokuu ( talk ) 00:54, September 8, 2017 (UTC) He actually said the opposite in an interview that came out today; that the Ifrit theory isn't correct and that they might explain the … Now, we definitely could be wrong on details throughout our theory. Solheim. /r/FFXV/comments/5t367b/pitioss_ruins_revelations/. SUMMARY: We want to thank everyone who previously read and enjoyed our Pitioss Ruins: Revelations theory. All sidequests in the main walkthrough and in their own section. 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For example, many players believe that the journalist Vyv is a representation of the Pheonix. Maria dies in a similar fashion to Luna, and Noctis also follows a similar path to Draco. Namely, the people of Galahd and the Auburnbrie family. Don't know if you've seen this yet, but there's this really interesting FFXV theory going around relating to the Pitioss Ruins dungeon, and I figured it'd interest you. The Japanese translation for Genji is twins, so it’s suggested that Ardyn and the brother who betrayed him were not only the original Lucian kings, but they were also twins. It was called the Pitioss Ruins theory, and many fans have been divided on this subject for some time. He doesn’t impart these powers to just any fool who wanders in to his realm. During the game, we discover that Gentiana was Shiva, yet her true body still lays in the desert of Gralea covering the desert wasteland in a coat of ice. Pitioss visually lays out all the imagery to tell this story. Niflheim/Ardyn used many Solheim methods to gain power, but Magitech Soldiers having chips to gain access to areas is something that never matched up to Solheim technology…until now. Feb 16. The Rock of Ravatough theory being the resting place of Ifrit’s real Astral body has been confirmed solidly in the Episode Gladius DLC. http://imgur.com/pRRYVip Ifrit needed Gilgamesh’s arm to gain access to areas deep underground that Solheim had sealed using their twisted powers. In the world of FFXV a base spell has three uses. Finally, if Ifrit’s blindness is ever confirmed then this would explain his link to Ignis, there's a chance it could be explained in the upcoming Episode Ignis. Square Enix is literally forcing the player to read between the lines here to see Gilgamesh in this artwork. It is believed that the Omen trailer also very much represents Ardyn’s ultimate fate when he was manipulated and led down a dark path. Also, there are locations and buildings in the game that contain the name Balamb — a reference to the Balamb Garden military school in Final Fantasy VIII. When Noctis encounters and summons the Astrals, it’s very apparent that their true form is of huge giants that make humans look like insects in comparison. In FFVI the Esper form of Odin teaches the METEOR Spell. Pitioss Ruins is a special dungeon that requires the Regalia Type-F, as it is enclosed in a mountainous region. Ifrit continued on his journey, retrieved Eos, escaped with her out of the Underworld, burst out of Taelpar Crag, and began burning Eos’ corpse on the pyre. Pitioss Ruins is easy to miss.Square Enix "Wait a second — there are no roads leading to that road," you might be saying, and rightly so. Pitioss is one of the more unique dungeons in Final Fantasy 15. We took Genji Gloves to mean “two beginnings”… that Eos had given birth to twins after being with a mortal man. Using this gift of Meteor spells, Ifrit was able to defeat Titan at Cauthess, defeat Gilgamesh at Gralea, & create an opening for himself to enter the Underworld at Lestallum/Taelpar Crag. While Ifrit is able to avoid the attacks of Bahamut, this is explained by Ignis as he himself is able to sense and see certain flashes of light, allowing him to fight. Magitek Troopers were created when humans were injected with the Starscourge. In Episode Prompto, we found out that Prompto was intended to become another Magitek Trooper before he was rescued. With FFVI still being the overall highest rated game in the series and at the top of many gamers favorite RPG list, it’s easy to see why. Each Astral has one or two special moves…& METEOR is not one of Ifrit’s normal abilities. Via Final Fantasy wikia One of the most popular and well put together theories was written by a husband and wife duo known on Reddit as persona77. Perhaps the biggest parallel is found in the opera of Maria and Draco, the story focuses on a prince from the east and a princess from the west who are separated by war, family, and the gods. With that said, here's my working theory: The female figure in Pitioss serves as FFXV's equivalent to Etro. The scars on Ifrit’s chest reflects the one on Gladios which was seen when he returned from his quest seen in the Episode Gladio DLC. There’s a lot of allusions to the seventeen-year-old FFVIII, such as the Weapon’s Monthly magazines, and the way magic is drawn from certain points in the game is similar to the Junction System. http://imgur.com/ReLlHBZ This is important here…WHITE switches. http://imgur.com/F2P1MxS Holy crap. PART 3: “Paying the Price for Grand Hubris”. The player has to climb up the left arm to finally open the door, while simultaneously the 2nd Meteor spell is thrown. Prior to the games release Hajime Tabata stated that Final Fantasy VI was his greatest influence in the development of Final Fantasy XV. What would Gilgamesh’s ancient civilization be? I spent 4 hours in here the 1st time and it was mind boggling. That’s good news for Final Fantasy purists who rejected the Pitioss Ruins theory from the get-go, even as it persisted within the fandom. HOLY CRAP. So Gilgamesh is defeated… and only his head & left arm remain! In the Episode Gladio demo, Cor states he was punished by Gilgamesh for trying to go above his station. However, the Pitioss Ruins theory goes beyond this and simply assumes at face value that if X happened with equivalent characters in the Greek myth, then the equivalent must be true in Final Fantasy XV. It is just too coincidental that Gilgamesh has his left arm cut right above the elbow, and in Pitioss we have TWO references to disembodied left arms cut off above the elbow. The theory states that after she sinned by having a romantic relationship with a human, the Astrals punished her by chaining her in the daemon-ridden underworld. http://imgur.com/fwXI33a Look at the gigantic crater Gralea is in! In addition, Nyx doesn’t just have control of fire, but he’s seen using lightning magic quite frequently in combat too. The presence of Odin’s powered up form, Raiden, from FFVI in the Big Bang art has another very interesting connotation… If Square is using Odin from FFVI as inspiration for his character in FFXV then there is a major detail that must be mentioned here. http://imgur.com/jKhMyTq. And it still is. Both Gentiana and Ifrit were much smaller than the likes of Ramah, Titan, and Leviathan. First I have to name and explain the fan theory that has been crushed to bits. It’s also suggested that the Omen Trailer is a vision shown to King Regis by the crystal portraying many outcomes, destinies, and fates for Noctis. An extensive trophy/achievement guide. We realized that we needed to revisit and rethink some of our initial thoughts about Pitioss. FINAL FANTASY XV WINDOWS EDITION. Look closer at the treasure chest… http://imgur.com/EMZUatI the treasure chest has 4 dog feet! It's common knowledge by now that Final Fantasy XV had a very long and troubled development cycle. He is either unable to free himself, or does not have the means to act. To give a clearer idea of WHY Gilgamesh is being depicted in Pitioss, let’s take a step back & look at the real world mythology of the Sumerian King, Gilgamesh. http://imgur.com/J9EChEw Gilgamesh’s arm has been bound to this area. Ifrit received some assistance from an unexpected friend…Pryna. In addition, right after what players would assume are the spirits of Noctis and Luna, the game cuts back to the friends pushing the car in the same way that they did in the beginning of the game, with Gladio wondering, “if this is all some kind of omen.” Suggesting that Regis (or something) is manipulating time and realities for a happier outcome. After the globe room, we can see Ifrit (shrouded in RED!) There’s a big fan theory that the Omen trailer isn’t just a representation of potential and tragic outcomes for Noctis but it’s also a warning from that past. The same can be said for Noctis, as the character was provided a means of escaping the horrors of the world briefly. Also, look how his image is formed. Prompto's potential fate and the psychological damage that suffered could represent both Ifrit’s unleashing of the Starscourge. One of the most popular and well put together theories was written by a husband and wife duo known on Reddit as persona77. read rules before following & feel free to send a meme to start a thread! Pitioss Ruins (1) Final Fantasy XV. Also, it’s likely that Gilgamesh’s descendants are still playing an important role in the current timeline of FFXV. Now, let’s switch back to addressing the first room in Pitioss. With the release of the Episode Gladio Demo, juicy new lore details have emerged. He is a dimensional traveler! Their theory is the Pitioss Ruins were built by Ifrit and that the strange puzzles, statues, and architecture function as a means of telling his own tragic story. While not many of the aspects were executed as well as that game, the influence is obvious, the Darkworld and the World of Ruin, and even Ardyn and Kefka also follow a very a similar path. An earlier theory that some fans believe is that Nyx may have possibly become a Messenger (a human vessel) for the spirit of Ifrit after his death in the Kingsglaive movie. What really matters though, is the overarching narrative that Pitioss is trying to tell: the tale of not only Ifrit and Eos but of Gilgamesh as well. Perhaps overtime, he learned how to share these souls with people who came seeking power. But the door into Pitioss is still shut. After this, Gilgamesh’s part in Ifrit’s tale is over. There are fans out there that claim that due to the time constraints that Final Fantasy XV took the Bloodborne and Dark Souls route by telling a story through its environment and the various pieces of lore (the Cosmology) found scattered all over the world. Here's a video on the theory, along with a follow-up. All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos Workshop News Guides Reviews FINAL FANTASY XV WINDOWS EDITION > General Discussions > Topic Details. And it still is. But…we found an actual PICTURE of Gilgamesh in Pitioss Ruins, among other things! Immortality & Time Travel. The mural even depicts where these souls that are going into Gilgamesh are coming from. Remember…they weren’t even sure if they were going to get the green light to continue the series at all. Their theory is the Pitioss Ruins were built by Ifrit and that the strange puzzles, statues, and architecture function as … http://imgur.com/OD78BK7 The Meteor spell is literally & symbolically being given to Ifrit through Pryna. It fits the tone of FFXV perfectly. In Greek mythology, Eos is the goddess of dawn, and the coming of dawn is an ongoing theme in Final Fantasy XV. Gilgamesh is Eos’ child. http://imgur.com/SeZihBw. Just like the Goddess Eos, his name has been written out of history, nowhere to be seen. A spotlight shines on the bearded statue who is holding a door shut with one hand and a platform with the other. 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